Love Unity
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
It is true, I love Ubuntu’s Unity.
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Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
It is true, I love Ubuntu’s Unity.
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Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
It’s official: you are a mentalist …. and an Ubuntu fan-boy!
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@bobobex, I cannot help it, Unity really is lovely. You should give it a try! ;)
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
+1 bobobex!! :P
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
I actually quite enjoy it as well. I’m not using it currently because I have a problem with how the Ubuntu repos are run, but that has nothing to do with Unity.
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@samsnotunix, I am intrigued, please feel free to tell, if you feel like it.
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
I agree! It’s great.
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@corenominal basically few months before Ubuntu is released they pull in all of the Debian Sid repos. There are some packages that get officially supported and updated but others are just left in the state they were in when the pull happens. If they break or are broken they stay that way until the next release.
An example would be when I used to use facebook, I used the facebook-chat pidgin plugin. Facebook changed something and the plugin broke. There was a minor rev to the pidgin plugin but it never made it into the Ubuntu repos because it wasn’t an officially supported package.
There was also a project on FLOSS Weekly that had a broken package in Debian Sid that got pulled into Ubuntu. Once again it wasn’t a supported package so even when the people behind the project tried to get Ubuntu to update the package, they didn’t respond. There was already a new version in the Debian repos that worked, but Ubuntu wouldn’t change it.
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@samsnotunix, thanks for taking the time to explain. I can appreciate why you might have a problem with it. I am not about to start defending the Ubuntu developers, it really is not my place, but do you think this might be a resources issue? As I understand it, each and every package in Debian has a maintainer (at least that is the theory), but in Ubuntu, packages are only maintained if they need modifying/patching. I guess in an ideal world, every package in the Ubuntu repositories would have an Ubuntu developer assigned as a maintainer.
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
i really don’t care for it. i guess if it makes other people happy, i can be glad it exists. its just… ugly. really the antithesis of what i like in a computer interface. surprises me that you’d like it given your usual aesthetic.
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@samsnotunix
I agree completely. You will never catch me saying Ubuntu is bad.. However Debian is right up my alley. I had this same issue with the OSS4 drivers and the pidgin plugin as you said. I think the OSS4 and the Gnome meta-package were broken for 1 or even 2 releases.
Unity though.. I think it will continue to be very very good. I am very partial to Gnome 3 myself though I would not say no to having Unity packages in the next Debian stable. :)
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@lordmacbayne, it surprised me too! Having said that, I have performed a few minor tweaks to make it slightly more appealing (obviously subjective). For example, I turned off the backlight to the launcher icons, removed the overlay scrollbars and removed the orange highlights from the GTK theme. I think it now looks quite attractive, but there is always room for improvement. :)
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@corenominal - In reference to resources perhaps being the issue in Ubuntu development land, what would be the logic and resources of even pulling in a package and leaving it then?
I guess the question is why and then how would a package described by samsnotunix ever “get pulled into Ubuntu”
Just curious…
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
All right…. Daisy is just TOO cute!!
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@Samuel Orr
I too am impressed with Gnome 3 and especially what Fedora 15 has got going with it.. I keep a version of 15 around to see it’s growth…
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@VastOne, I think the majority of packages pulled from Debian work well and the packages mentioned by samsnotunix are an exception. I guess the logic is to provide as many packages/options as possible.
:)
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@corenominal. Would it not then be better to actually keep syncing this packages? If there no manual labor behind them why not auomate the process so that packages like pidgin get updated?
Jun 11, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@Johan, Debian unstable is rolling, where as Ubuntu is not, so syncing the packages would/might cause dependency problems.
Jun 12, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@corenominal Normally it wouldn’t bother me but I tend to use packages that are out of date in Ubuntu, which makes it less than ideal for me. Otherwise I think it’s great.
Jun 12, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
Are you like those chinese bloggers paid by the government to write positive articles about the system ?
Jun 12, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
I like it too.
A bit strange that the main screenshot on the Unity page you linked to doesn’t really reflect how Unity works.
Jun 12, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
Looking forward to a crunchbanged Unity release :)
Seriously I am also a fan of the look and feel of Unity. It might become a brilliant Desktop System. Just need a more stable and tested base and maybe a solid clean up. Just to much useless stuff installed by default. But that’s just my opinion.
Jun 12, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
You clearly have mental issues my friend, I suspect the lack of attendance on identi.ca and Facebook has affected your brain so badly you are now prepared to accept any old ‘doggy doo doo’ as a supposed desktop environment. Please use Gnome3 for a month which will show you the error of your ways. :-) #hugsboomerang
Jun 12, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@Peter, interestingly, or not, I found GNOME Shell quite unusable. Unity, on the other hand, is a real pleasure to use. Regarding the state of my mental health, yes, it is quite worrying, but I cannot help it — Unity is just too likeable. :)
Jun 13, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@samsnotunix The folks gardening the universe and multiverse repositories in Ubuntu are resource-starved. For the most part, we’re all volunteers and, as Philip states, we don’t have the benefit of having many eyes on each individual package in universe/multiverse despite a non-trivial number of us also being maintainers in Debian.
When the situation arises that your bug is being ignored - or if you simply feel that a bug exists without it being filed using Launchpad - please write to ubuntu-devel-discuss. I can’t guarantee an immediate response, of course, but at least a few of us will have additional eyes on it. Cheers, -Dan
Jun 15, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
Hmm, will there be a UnitBang in the future?
On second thought, that may not be a good name…
:D
Jun 15, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@jpope, no, no UnitBang! LOL
Jun 15, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
I agree that Unity does seem to get a lot of things right that GNOME Shell does not, at least in terms of visually appealing design, but I was really hoping that it would improve my workflow and have intuitive window management… which to my mind it does not. It’s become more difficult to rapidly switch between different windows, and the OS X-style global menubar just isn’t my cup of tea. I’ve switched back to GNOME 2.3.2, or as Ubuntu insists on calling it, “Ubuntu Classic.”
Jun 15, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
(PS: but Unity still doesn’t hold a candle to #! ‘s aesthetic! :D )
Jun 15, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@James Robert Hunter, I thought I would really dislike the global menu, but I don’t, I actually quite like it. Having said that, there are a couple of applications which it does not work overly well with, one being GIMP, which is probably down to GIMP’s multi window layout. If I get time, I might try and install a later version of GIMP with single window mode, it will be interesting to see if it helps.
Jun 17, 2011 (about 11 months ago)
@jpope wins with the UnitBang blast. CrunchUnit would be just as painful. I beg you Philip, please just say no to infecting #! with Unity. My head is hurting…please tell me corenominal posted this on April 1.
Jun 19, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
Unity strikes me as a model dressed in expensive attire, done up with make-up and a fancy hairdo, airbrushed to no end, and posted on a magazine cover.
Beautiful maybe, nice to look at sure, but it’s not who I’d want to spend my time with.
! is the woman who doesn’t need all that crap to be - simply - elegant.I’ll chime with those saying unity may be interesting, but hopefully you won’t be tempted to put it (as standard/default at least) in any future #! release.
In fairness I have never sat down and tried using unity … but neither do I have any interest in doing so. I love my #! - I am not tempted to stray ;o)
Jun 21, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
First of all, lol at the people throwing hissy fits because corenominal gave Unity a go. Even if he hadn’t liked it, giving it a chance unlike majority of people who are engaged in these silly desktop wars, is worthy in and of itself. Having said that, I tried it, used it for a few weeks, liked a lot of it, but ultimately decided Xubuntu with compiz works better for me. Ironically, the one thing I really miss is the global menu, which doesn’t work with xfce’s panel.
One question for corenominal. And no, it’s not ‘omg iz u switching back to da evil ubuntu’ (imagine it written in all caps, I’m just too polite to actually do it), but it’s sort of related, have you ever used compiz as a standalone desktop environment (technically wm, but you build a de out of it). If so, what did you think of it?
In the end, good luck with Crunchbang, always loved it and always keep a copy of it in VirtualBox, debian stable repos are unfortunately not my cup of tea.
Jun 21, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
@Somebody, no, I have never tried Compiz as a stand alone WM. I have read a few posts about it, but that is all. I should really give it a try. :)
Jun 21, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
Oh my, I haven’t looked at your blog in quite a while and then this! Quite unexpected!
Interestingly, I to installed Natty a few days ago and I post from it now. I agree its very usable and I do enjoy its workflow. I posted at the CrunchBang forums that side by side it looks and feels very much like my work macbook. Perhaps I’ll post some comparison screens at my blog to highlight that further. I also turned off the panel backlights, it’s quite annoying.
I doubt it will ever replace my first love of Debian/Xfce but I’ll probably keep an install around after this week of testing that I’ve committed to. So far this week is going better that your Gnome 3 trial :P
Jun 21, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
@omns, yes, much better than the GNOME 3 trial. I am quite shocked by how easily I have taken to Natty — more so because before I installed it, I did not think it would stay on my system for more than a couple of hours, but the more I use it, the more I like it. Who’da thunk it? :/
Jun 22, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
Sometimes I find the accidental synchronicity between the things we test a bit spooky. Enjoy the rest of your Unity evaluation (switch?).
Jun 22, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
@omns, it is a little spooky, maybe I am your virtual doppelgänger! :D
Jul 4, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
Cool man. I’m really happy to see people showing projects some love like this. After all it’s Libre and someone worked very hard on it. I’m a bit surprised at your liking unity, and not at all @omns. He being a mac user and all. But, guess that just shows how u’ve always got tricks up your sleeve Papanominal. Remember the time you put all those colors on your blog? :D Hope u enjoy it!! BTW, have you tried the new FVWM? :LOL:
Jul 4, 2011 (about 10 months ago)
@Will, in reply to:
Deep down, I think I might actually like a Mac myself, but please do not tell anyone that I said that! :D
Oct 14, 2011 (about 7 months ago)
@corenominal, in reply to: “Deep down, I think I might actually like a Mac myself, but please do not tell anyone that I said that! :D”
I don’t know what to say… I hope you’re bloody kidding.
Wow. Genuinely disappointed.